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Kenny Bhoy

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Celtic Trust & Fans Against Criminalisation
« on: April 10, 2013, 02:16:06 PM »
Fans Against Criminalisation is calling for an inquiry into the events of Saturday 16th March 2013, when an unauthorised, but entirely peaceful, march by a relatively small number of Celtic fans was the subject of a completely disproportionate and aggressive operation by the officers of Strathclyde Police (now the Police Service of Scotland).

If you support this call then please let your MSPs (constituency and list) know about it. We have prepared an template email which will generate the email for your MSPs using your postcode. Thank you for your support.

LINK >>>>>>>>>> https://www.celtictrust.net/index.php?func=d_home_msps

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Re: Celtic Trust & Fans Against Criminalisation
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2013, 02:17:51 PM »
List >>>>>>>>>>>

Constituency: Clackmannanshire and Dunblane

Below is a list of your constituency and regional MSPs.
Select the MSPs you would like to contact:

Constituency MSP   
Keith Brown   Keith.Brown.msp@scottish.parliament.uk   

Mid Scotland and Fife regional MSPs   

Annabelle Ewing   Annabelle.Ewing.msp@scottish.parliament.uk   

Claire Baker   Claire.Baker.msp@scottish.parliament.uk   

Dr Richard Simpson   Richard.Simpson.msp@scottish.parliament.uk   

Jayne Baxter   Jayne.Baxter@scottish.parliament.uk   

Liz Smith   Elizabeth.Smith.msp@scottish.parliament.uk   

Murdo Fraser   Murdo.Fraser.msp@scottish.parliament.uk   

Willie Rennie   Willie.Rennie.msp@scottish.parliament.uk   

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Re: Celtic Trust & Fans Against Criminalisation
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2013, 02:19:38 PM »
Copy of Celtic Trust e-mail sent >>>>>>>>>>>

Dear
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> Policing of Celtic fan protest on Gallowgate, Saturday 16th March 2013.
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> I am writing to you, as your constituent, to ask you to support the call by the Fans Against Criminalisation group for an inquiry into the police action at the this event.  There is widespread alarm throughout the Celtic-supporting community and wider Scottish society about the way that this peaceful protest, albeit unauthorised, was policed.  The events of that day have implications for the right to demonstrate peacefully in our society.  The images of police officers brandishing truncheons and large numbers of young people and families being ‘kettled’ are extremely disturbing and nothing short of an independent inquiry will be sufficient to restore trust in the police.
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> I look forward to hearing from you.
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> Yours sincerely
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Re: Celtic Trust & Fans Against Criminalisation
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2013, 02:20:46 PM »
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Dear
I am keeping in touch with my Labour colleague Michael McMahon MSP on this issue. he has already raised concerns in the parliament as you know whilst supporting actions to reduce sectarianism ( including those taken by clubs) Labour regarded the recent SNP legislation as clumsy and unlikely to contribute to a reduction in sectarianism. The SNP chose to ignore all the concerns of the opposition parties ( as they have done on almost all legislation since 2011).
Regards
Richard Simpson

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Re: Celtic Trust & Fans Against Criminalisation
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2013, 02:27:13 PM »
Only had one reply to date, so i'm resending the e-mail every day until i get a response from every one,, particularly from Keith Brown who has backed this Bill from the Start,

a poem to inspire you into action>>>>>>>>>>



    First they came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the socialists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for the Catholics,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Catholic.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)

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Re: Celtic Trust & Fans Against Criminalisation
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2013, 03:01:42 PM »
Dear Mr Boyle

Thank you for your email concerning the unauthorised march of Celtic supporters on 16th March in the Gallowgate, and the police response to that march.

For information, in March, Scottish Conservative Leader Ruth Davidson wrote to Strathclyde Police Authority requesting them to examine the incident in question.

Thank you once again for getting in touch.

Elizabeth Smith MSP
Mid Scotland and Fife

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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2013, 06:09:33 PM »
Thank you for your email expressing your concerns about the policing of the Celtic fans protest on 16th March.
 
Although I only recently became an MSP in December 2012, I am aware that at the time, my Scottish Labour colleagues opposed the Scottish Government’s Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012.
 
I am concerned that there are a number of problems with the current legislation and believe that we need clarity about what constitutes an offence. I believe the particular incident you outlined highlights the risk of damage to the relationship between the police and football fans.
 
In response, Scottish Labour MSPs are renewing calls for a review of the Act under the procedures for post-legislative scrutiny at Holyrood. This would look at the legislation in its entirety and not just focus on one particular incident.
 
Thank you for taking the time to contact me on this issue, and I will keep you informed of future developments.
 
Yours sincerely
 
Jayne
 
Jayne Baxter MSP
Mid Scotland and Fife (Labour)

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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2013, 06:14:01 PM »
Dear Mr Boyle
 
Thank you for your recent email.
 
As far as I am aware, marches on public roads are subject to the procedures set down in the Police, Public Order & Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 2006 (introduced by the then Labour led Scottish Executive).
 
In terms of this legislation, an application to march must be made to the relevant local authority at least 28 days before the event.
 
As far as I understand, no such application was made with respect to the 16 March protest.
 
As far as operational policing issues are concerned, these are a matter for the Chief Constable of Police Scotland. If you wish to raise a concern as to policing, you should in the first instance contact the Chief Constable at Police Scotland HQ, PO Box 21184, Alloa, FK10 9DE.
 
If you remain concerned further to any reply received, you can always refer a complaint to the Police Investigations & Review Commissioner.  I understand that the full video footage is part of ongoing criminal proceedings at this time.
 
Finally, with respect to your call for an enquiry, I understand that the Council Leader of the opposition SNP Group on Glasgow City Council, Graeme Hendry, recently wrote to the relevant Council Convener, Labour Councillor Philip Braat of the ruling Labour Group about an investigation into the events of 16 March. I attach the response received and you will note that such a request was rejected by the Labour Convener.
 
Yours sincerely
 
Annabelle Ewing, MSP

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Re: Celtic Trust & Fans Against Criminalisation
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2013, 06:41:24 PM »
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Re: Celtic Trust & Fans Against Criminalisation
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2013, 12:25:30 PM »
Dear Kenny,
Thank you for your email concerning the unauthorised march of Celtic supporters on 16th March in the Gallowgate, and the police response to that march.
For information, in March Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson wrote to Strathclyde Police Authority requesting them to examine the incident in question. I will let you know what response we receive.
Thank you once again for getting in touch.
 
 
With best wishes,
 
Yours sincerely
 
 
 
 
Murdo Fraser MSP
Member for Mid Scotland & Fife (Scottish Conservatives)

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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2013, 11:32:51 AM »
Dear Kenneth

Thank you for your email regarding the policing of the Celtic fan protest on Gallowgate on Saturday the 16th of March 2013.

Firstly Scottish Labour has proudly supported efforts to tackle sectarianism in its many strands and will continue to do so until this problem has been eradicated from our society. We believe that the best way to achieve a Scotland free from sectarianism is through focusing on education, particularly with our younger generations, working with churches and people from all faiths and none, football fans and authorities.

For this to be achieved we must focus on positive and practical measures which are based on evidence and aimed towards reducing tensions around football grounds - between fans of opposing teams and the police - and in other aspects of life where a sectarian elements can be found.
I do not believe that this has been achieved through the passing of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012.

At the time I, along with my colleagues in Scottish Labour, opposed the proposals from the Scottish Government. We forewarned that the Act may lead to a deterioration of positive relationships that had been built in recent years between clubs, fans and police, a relationship needed to ensure genuine supporters are unaffected by the policing of the small minority that use violent and threatening behaviour. This was a fear shared by many fans, supporters associations, religious organisations, charities, the Law Society and the Human Rights Commission.

Serious questions must be asked regarding the 2012 Act and my colleague Michael McMahon has raised the specific issue of the Celtic fan protest in Parliament, in particular regarding the response of the police and I back his calls for an investigation into the police handling.

I share concerns that the 2012 Act has only created confusions when clarity is essential and note that this is a concern not just felt amongst Celtic fans but throughout the footballing community. The aforementioned issue only highlights these fears and Scottish Labour will be renewing our calls that the Act should be subject to review under the procedures for post-legislative scrutiny at Holyrood.

I will seek to keep you updated on future developments and hope we can reach a positive conclusion and I would like to thank you for taking the time to contact me and raise this important issue.

Kind regards

Claire Baker MSP
Mid Scotland and Fife

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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2013, 12:32:39 PM »
Dear Kenny,
 
Following our previous correspondence regarding the events in the Gallowgate of 16th March 2013, leader of the Scottish Conservatives, Ruth Davidson MSP has now received a response from Strathclyde Police Authority.
In it, the Convener of the authority recognises the number of complaints surrounding these events and points out that numerous referrals have been made to the Crown Office related to the march that day.
He further acknowledges that these criminal legal proceedings will look at whether conduct was proper and if the courts suggest any impropriety, that will undoubtedly result in further enquiries into the matter.
I support the due process of law, will watch the process of these referrals through the court system with interest and reserve judgement on whether enquiries further than any resulting from the legal process are required until that process is complete.
 
With best wishes,
 
Yours sincerely
 
 
 
 
Murdo Fraser MSP
Member for Mid Scotland & Fife (Scottish Conservatives)